When you are younger your thinking tends to be short term. Life changes so much at that time that it is sometimes hard to realize that decisions that you make today can have a lasting impact on your life. World of Warcraft isn't life but it mimics the real world in many ways.
I was in a 25 man raid on Sunday that had the makings of a great run. Good healers, good leadership and good dps. I was playing on my hunter Delan and as this was my first time playing a hunter in a 25 man I was a bit nervous. As we entered the first room of Icecrown Citadel I immediately noticed that we were in combat. I haven't been there many times but I knew that wasn't supposed to happen. A few people died but we were able to contain it pretty quickly. When someone asked how it happened no one seemed to know. We start buffing and a minute later the mobs come at us again. This time we are more prepared and we down them pretty easily. Again the question goes out ... "What happened?" Most don't know and are quiet but on Ventrilo one person claims that a rogue just ran up and attacked them then vanished. No one was really sure and both rogues were silent and the leader just let it go. We downed the first boss pretty easy and we roll for loot. There wasn't anything for me so I moved on.
After every fight I always evaluate the dps / healing on the previous fight. This comes from my officer days but it really is a good habit. These days I mainly check my performance vs others in my class and see if I can learn anything from them. I was holding my own so I looked to see the dps of the group. Ten of the dps were over 6000 which was really encouraging for a PuG but we had 3 people who were under 2000 including one of the rogues. Of course a rogue ring dropped and he wins it. No biggie. We move to the next boss.
I was in full panic mode for most of this fight as the situational awareness needed is totally different than healing. I did ok and we one shot him. I was hoping for a bow to drop but alas it didn't so I got on the elevator for the next boss. While I'm waiting for the loot to be distributed I review the dps and see that the results were similar to the first boss. We did a bit better on that attempt but we had about 4 people that were really holding us back. The bad thing is once you've gone past the first boss it really is impossible to get anyone to join since no one wants to miss out on loot. While I am reviewing all of a sudden I notice movement on my Grid healthbars. We are under attack. I see 5 people die almost imediately so I feign death and wait to see what happens. The tanks and healers quickly got the situation under control so I poppled up and helped finish off the mobs. As soon as they are down, the questions begin ... "Who pulled?" No one knows except one guys that says... I saw that rogue just run up and pull them. Which one? Pinkz. The question is asked to Pinkz in vent and no response is given. They ask in chat and still no reply. Pinkz had done about 1500dps in gear that should have done triple that amount and now he had almost wiped the raid three times. The leader thought aloud about replacing him but decided against it because of the difficulty of getting someone after 2 bosses. We move forward.
The Gunship battle is pretty epic but it is also pretty easy. We win the fight with no problems and get loot. The agility axe falls and the leader asks for main spec rolls. Pinkz rolls. A few comments go over Vent ... "Pinkz you already won something, you can't roll". This is a true statement and was explained a few times before the raid. Everyone gets 1 Main spec Item and 1 Off Spec Item. After that it was first come first serve. The call goes out over Vent ... "Anyone else need?" No answer so the axe is given to Pinkz. The issue wasn't that he got the item as ultimately he would have gotten it. The issue was he rolled when he shouldn't have done so. Leaders rely on the honesty of the raid to avoid mistakes and Pinkz should have known better. No big deal but a bit annoying. We move on.
The 4 boss is Saurfang and the end for most PuGs. This fight takes a lot of coordination but this group had really come together. I was nervous again because the hunters are responsible for CC'ing the adds and I'd never done it before. I was amazed how smooth the fight went and how much fun I had kiting. The boss falls easily and we get the loot. Two tokens fall (neither for hunters) as well as the best DPS trinket in the game. Pinkz of course rolls on the rogue token but loses. We are all laughing/screaming in Vent ... "Pinkz, you already won something! You can't roll on that!" That doesn't stop him from rolling again on the trinket. This time he wins the roll against 8 others (including me). At this point it was past silly and it was obvious that even though he was in Vent he wasn't listening. Someone typed in chat... You can't roll on that. You have won your Main Spec item." Like before there is no response. In fact he hasn't said a thing all raid and I'm really beginning to wonder about this guy. The loot is given to the second highest roll (again sadly not me) and we move on.
As we move into the next room we fight the first few mobs and are getting ready to go after the optional boss when Pinkz makes his first comment, "Hey (Leader), I won that trinket! You didn't loot it to me." Now we are all beyond belief. This person who has almost purposely wiped the raid 3 times, has gotten two pieces of 25 man loot, has pulled less than a third of the dps he should be doing, is now questioning the raid leader on loot that has been told to him at least 5 times before that he wasn't eligible to roll? The leader says nothing so I made the comment in raidchat, "You really need to review the loot rules." He says, "What are they?" Another person adds, "They were explained in /LFG when you were recruited, they were explained at the beginning of the fight in vent and in chat, they have been explained 3 times since when you rolled out of turn." Someone else says, "1 Main Spec / 1Off Spec loot". He responds, "I got it." Two seconds later he drops group. Since the rest of the instance is pretty unforgiving on dps, losing even Pinkz reduces the will of the rest of the raid to continue as finding a dps willing to join is very unlikely. We make a halfhearted attempt at finding someone then call the raid about a few minutes later.
That leads me back to the title of this article. I sent him a tell just after he left the group, "Just so you know, it isn't a good idea to get into a PuG then drop group when you get loot because it will affect your rep and will make it tougher to find a group in the future as people have long memories". His response ... "LOL ...so". My guess is Pinkz is a very young player that lives moment to moment. Things in his world revolve around him and that is how life works when you are young. Unfortunately as we all get older we find that our actions sometimes have consequences. Perhaps Pinkz will never be affected by his actions in that raid but I have no doubt that if he continues to think short term in his real life that he won't like the long term results. I hope he figures this out before it is too late.
I was in a 25 man raid on Sunday that had the makings of a great run. Good healers, good leadership and good dps. I was playing on my hunter Delan and as this was my first time playing a hunter in a 25 man I was a bit nervous. As we entered the first room of Icecrown Citadel I immediately noticed that we were in combat. I haven't been there many times but I knew that wasn't supposed to happen. A few people died but we were able to contain it pretty quickly. When someone asked how it happened no one seemed to know. We start buffing and a minute later the mobs come at us again. This time we are more prepared and we down them pretty easily. Again the question goes out ... "What happened?" Most don't know and are quiet but on Ventrilo one person claims that a rogue just ran up and attacked them then vanished. No one was really sure and both rogues were silent and the leader just let it go. We downed the first boss pretty easy and we roll for loot. There wasn't anything for me so I moved on.
After every fight I always evaluate the dps / healing on the previous fight. This comes from my officer days but it really is a good habit. These days I mainly check my performance vs others in my class and see if I can learn anything from them. I was holding my own so I looked to see the dps of the group. Ten of the dps were over 6000 which was really encouraging for a PuG but we had 3 people who were under 2000 including one of the rogues. Of course a rogue ring dropped and he wins it. No biggie. We move to the next boss.
I was in full panic mode for most of this fight as the situational awareness needed is totally different than healing. I did ok and we one shot him. I was hoping for a bow to drop but alas it didn't so I got on the elevator for the next boss. While I'm waiting for the loot to be distributed I review the dps and see that the results were similar to the first boss. We did a bit better on that attempt but we had about 4 people that were really holding us back. The bad thing is once you've gone past the first boss it really is impossible to get anyone to join since no one wants to miss out on loot. While I am reviewing all of a sudden I notice movement on my Grid healthbars. We are under attack. I see 5 people die almost imediately so I feign death and wait to see what happens. The tanks and healers quickly got the situation under control so I poppled up and helped finish off the mobs. As soon as they are down, the questions begin ... "Who pulled?" No one knows except one guys that says... I saw that rogue just run up and pull them. Which one? Pinkz. The question is asked to Pinkz in vent and no response is given. They ask in chat and still no reply. Pinkz had done about 1500dps in gear that should have done triple that amount and now he had almost wiped the raid three times. The leader thought aloud about replacing him but decided against it because of the difficulty of getting someone after 2 bosses. We move forward.
The Gunship battle is pretty epic but it is also pretty easy. We win the fight with no problems and get loot. The agility axe falls and the leader asks for main spec rolls. Pinkz rolls. A few comments go over Vent ... "Pinkz you already won something, you can't roll". This is a true statement and was explained a few times before the raid. Everyone gets 1 Main spec Item and 1 Off Spec Item. After that it was first come first serve. The call goes out over Vent ... "Anyone else need?" No answer so the axe is given to Pinkz. The issue wasn't that he got the item as ultimately he would have gotten it. The issue was he rolled when he shouldn't have done so. Leaders rely on the honesty of the raid to avoid mistakes and Pinkz should have known better. No big deal but a bit annoying. We move on.
The 4 boss is Saurfang and the end for most PuGs. This fight takes a lot of coordination but this group had really come together. I was nervous again because the hunters are responsible for CC'ing the adds and I'd never done it before. I was amazed how smooth the fight went and how much fun I had kiting. The boss falls easily and we get the loot. Two tokens fall (neither for hunters) as well as the best DPS trinket in the game. Pinkz of course rolls on the rogue token but loses. We are all laughing/screaming in Vent ... "Pinkz, you already won something! You can't roll on that!" That doesn't stop him from rolling again on the trinket. This time he wins the roll against 8 others (including me). At this point it was past silly and it was obvious that even though he was in Vent he wasn't listening. Someone typed in chat... You can't roll on that. You have won your Main Spec item." Like before there is no response. In fact he hasn't said a thing all raid and I'm really beginning to wonder about this guy. The loot is given to the second highest roll (again sadly not me) and we move on.
As we move into the next room we fight the first few mobs and are getting ready to go after the optional boss when Pinkz makes his first comment, "Hey (Leader), I won that trinket! You didn't loot it to me." Now we are all beyond belief. This person who has almost purposely wiped the raid 3 times, has gotten two pieces of 25 man loot, has pulled less than a third of the dps he should be doing, is now questioning the raid leader on loot that has been told to him at least 5 times before that he wasn't eligible to roll? The leader says nothing so I made the comment in raidchat, "You really need to review the loot rules." He says, "What are they?" Another person adds, "They were explained in /LFG when you were recruited, they were explained at the beginning of the fight in vent and in chat, they have been explained 3 times since when you rolled out of turn." Someone else says, "1 Main Spec / 1Off Spec loot". He responds, "I got it." Two seconds later he drops group. Since the rest of the instance is pretty unforgiving on dps, losing even Pinkz reduces the will of the rest of the raid to continue as finding a dps willing to join is very unlikely. We make a halfhearted attempt at finding someone then call the raid about a few minutes later.
That leads me back to the title of this article. I sent him a tell just after he left the group, "Just so you know, it isn't a good idea to get into a PuG then drop group when you get loot because it will affect your rep and will make it tougher to find a group in the future as people have long memories". His response ... "LOL ...so". My guess is Pinkz is a very young player that lives moment to moment. Things in his world revolve around him and that is how life works when you are young. Unfortunately as we all get older we find that our actions sometimes have consequences. Perhaps Pinkz will never be affected by his actions in that raid but I have no doubt that if he continues to think short term in his real life that he won't like the long term results. I hope he figures this out before it is too late.
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